Commentüs on: Morning Light http://blog.ancient-future.net/2007/12/31/morning-light/ The Ancient and Future Catholic Blog Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:05:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Radical Catholic Mom http://blog.ancient-future.net/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1570 Radical Catholic Mom Wed, 02 Jan 2008 04:06:00 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1570 A Simple Sinner: LOL! My mistake. <br/><br/>Aramis: After I commented on the head covering, I realized that even Easterners do it. I guess my overall concern was the overall Romanization of the Liturgy compared to what I experienced in the South where 98% of the people were born into the Rite as opposed to defecting to it. As much as I love the Liturgy, it is not my tradition. It is good to experience it, for most Roman Riters are completely ignorant there ARE other Liturgies to be celebrated within the whole Church. <br/><br/>I am glad to hear that the people have chosen to respect the Bishop of Rome finally, for as yo A Simple Sinner: LOL! My mistake.

Aramis: After I commented on the head covering, I realized that even Easterners do it. I guess my overall concern was the overall Romanization of the Liturgy compared to what I experienced in the South where 98% of the people were born into the Rite as opposed to defecting to it. As much as I love the Liturgy, it is not my tradition. It is good to experience it, for most Roman Riters are completely ignorant there ARE other Liturgies to be celebrated within the whole Church.

I am glad to hear that the people have chosen to respect the Bishop of Rome finally, for as yo

]]> By: aramis http://blog.ancient-future.net/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1564 aramis Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:56:00 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1564 It's not in Mat-Su, it's in Anchorage.<br/><br/>Our mission is in Mat-Su.<br/><br/>In Anchorage, it's on Arctic at 22nd street.<br/><br/>In Mat-Su, the mission is at the old building of the Roman parish of Sacred Heart in Wasilla.<br/><br/>RCM: most of the Lefebrve-fans have either left or easternized. I'm still more vostochnik than most, but our most veil-conscious parishioner is a little ukrainian baba, whom never removes her coat nor scarf. But she makes woderful pirogi.<br/><br/>Some wear veils (Mrs. Thompson), some wear scarves, some wear hats (Mrs. Heller still wears a hat every week), and many, still don't. Nobody who matters minds: specifically: The pastor, the Eparch, the Metropolitan, and the Pope.<br/><br/>And polyphonic chant is a Ukraininan thing, not proper in the Ruthenian Catholic Church. See the Metropolitan Cantor Institute for more on that. <br/><br/>The parish is becoming more and more eastern again. I've been a parishioner for most for the last 20 years.<br/><br/>Kneeling was part fo the Ruthenian Liturgy. It was in the pew books, not because angry romans put it there, but because the Ruthenian Hierarchs had put it in. Now, they have taken it out. It’s not in Mat-Su, it’s in Anchorage.

Our mission is in Mat-Su.

In Anchorage, it’s on Arctic at 22nd street.

In Mat-Su, the mission is at the old building of the Roman parish of Sacred Heart in Wasilla.

RCM: most of the Lefebrve-fans have either left or easternized. I’m still more vostochnik than most, but our most veil-conscious parishioner is a little ukrainian baba, whom never removes her coat nor scarf. But she makes woderful pirogi.

Some wear veils (Mrs. Thompson), some wear scarves, some wear hats (Mrs. Heller still wears a hat every week), and many, still don’t. Nobody who matters minds: specifically: The pastor, the Eparch, the Metropolitan, and the Pope.

And polyphonic chant is a Ukraininan thing, not proper in the Ruthenian Catholic Church. See the Metropolitan Cantor Institute for more on that.

The parish is becoming more and more eastern again. I’ve been a parishioner for most for the last 20 years.

Kneeling was part fo the Ruthenian Liturgy. It was in the pew books, not because angry romans put it there, but because the Ruthenian Hierarchs had put it in. Now, they have taken it out.

]]> By: A Simple Sinner http://blog.ancient-future.net/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1561 A Simple Sinner Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:12:00 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1561 RCM,<br/><br/>I am glad that our Prostopinije got you interested in polyphony... you realize, I hope, that Prostopinije is NOT polyphony, right?<br/><br/>These days I am told the situation is different... But headcovering is still common enough. And that is NOT a sign of ex-Latins. Go to traditional Orthodox parishes, you will find the same. RCM,

I am glad that our Prostopinije got you interested in polyphony… you realize, I hope, that Prostopinije is NOT polyphony, right?

These days I am told the situation is different… But headcovering is still common enough. And that is NOT a sign of ex-Latins. Go to traditional Orthodox parishes, you will find the same.

]]> By: Radical Catholic Mom http://blog.ancient-future.net/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1559 Radical Catholic Mom Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:51:00 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1559 Very interesting. I used to attend St. Nicholas'. It was St Nick that piqued my interest in Byzantine Catholicism but I had a really difficult time with the Byzantine community in Alaska. Most of them were angry Roman Riters and completely forcing their Roman ways on the Eastern customs. Head coverings? Kneeling? No. And then many of them also were attending the schismatic Lefeb group. Very disturbing. It is THE reason my spouse refused to continue attending there because he worried the people would influence our daughter over time. The Byzantine community in the South was FABULOUS. They were the real deal Eastern Riters and practiced their faith without Roman influence. I felt it was a much more authentic Eastern Community.<br/><br/>ON the positive side, it was St. Nick's that taught me about polyphonic chant that is absolutely beautiful and fully participatory. And the Eastern Catholic's love of beauty is something the West has LONG forgotten and in desperate need. Very interesting. I used to attend St. Nicholas’. It was St Nick that piqued my interest in Byzantine Catholicism but I had a really difficult time with the Byzantine community in Alaska. Most of them were angry Roman Riters and completely forcing their Roman ways on the Eastern customs. Head coverings? Kneeling? No. And then many of them also were attending the schismatic Lefeb group. Very disturbing. It is THE reason my spouse refused to continue attending there because he worried the people would influence our daughter over time. The Byzantine community in the South was FABULOUS. They were the real deal Eastern Riters and practiced their faith without Roman influence. I felt it was a much more authentic Eastern Community.

ON the positive side, it was St. Nick’s that taught me about polyphonic chant that is absolutely beautiful and fully participatory. And the Eastern Catholic’s love of beauty is something the West has LONG forgotten and in desperate need.

]]> By: Athanasius contra mundum http://blog.ancient-future.net/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1553 Athanasius contra mundum Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:17:00 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/morning-light/#comment-1553 I am in Fairbanks and I was wondering where this parish is in the Mat Su Valley? I am in Fairbanks and I was wondering where this parish is in the Mat Su Valley?

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