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	<title>Comments on: Taunts, Shouts, Stage Blood at Holy Name Cathedral, Chicago</title>
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		<title>By: Fr. J.</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3560</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, SS.  I saw this earlier when I was on the run.  I came very close to just deleting it out of frustration.  But, you always have the intelligent response even to the most sub-intelligent comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, SS.  I saw this earlier when I was on the run.  I came very close to just deleting it out of frustration.  But, you always have the intelligent response even to the most sub-intelligent comment.</p>
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		<title>By: asimplesinner</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3558</link>
		<dc:creator>asimplesinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;"That it does not do this demonstrates clearly that the Church is as hypocritical and as supportive of Fascism as it was when the Cathars were destroyed, and when it played footsie with Hitler."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

I just can't get over that you have a blog called "The World for People Who Think".  Be one of them.

www.binary.net/polycarp/piusxii.html
www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/piusXII.htm
www.catholic.com/library/HOW_Pius_XII_PROTECTED_JEWS
www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=105596
www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods48.html
www.beliefnet.com/story/55/story_5520_1.html

&lt;i&gt;"In his article for the Jewish Post (November 6, 1958) in Winnipeg, Canada, William Zukerman wrote that no other leader "did more to help the Jews in their hour of greatest tragedy, during the Nazi occupation of Europe, than the late pope."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1148482112058&#38;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter" rel="nofollow"&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;

Please forgive if the Pope does not take to the streets wielding a hand-painted protest sign.  His message and that of his predacessor was clear, but the pope is not a political activist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>&#8220;That it does not do this demonstrates clearly that the Church is as hypocritical and as supportive of Fascism as it was when the Cathars were destroyed, and when it played footsie with Hitler.&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t get over that you have a blog called &#8220;The World for People Who Think&#8221;.  Be one of them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.binary.net/polycarp/piusxii.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.binary.net/polycarp/piusxii.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/piusXII.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.chivalricorders.org/vatican/piusXII.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.catholic.com/library/HOW_Pius_XII_PROTECTED_JEWS" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholic.com/library/HOW_Pius_XII_PROTECTED_JEWS</a><br />
<a href="http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=105596" rel="nofollow">http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=105596</a><br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods48.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods48.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/story/55/story_5520_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.beliefnet.com/story/55/story_5520_1.html</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;In his article for the Jewish Post (November 6, 1958) in Winnipeg, Canada, William Zukerman wrote that no other leader &#8220;did more to help the Jews in their hour of greatest tragedy, during the Nazi occupation of Europe, than the late pope.&#8221;</i><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1148482112058&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter" rel="nofollow">Source</a></p>
<p>Please forgive if the Pope does not take to the streets wielding a hand-painted protest sign.  His message and that of his predacessor was clear, but the pope is not a political activist.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel700</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3551</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel700</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Catholics and the Pope really are against the war, if they really are Christians, then they all can demonstrate this claim by getting out on the streets and protesting until this illegal and illicit regime in the U.S. is changed.  The Catholic church can show its commitment to peace by urging its members to protest actively, it can support their protests, it can publish and widely disseminate the truth. 

That it does not do this demonstrates clearly that the Church is as hypocritical and as supportive of Fascism as it was when the Cathars were destroyed, and when it played footsie with Hitler.

Nothing is new under the sun: evil in high places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Catholics and the Pope really are against the war, if they really are Christians, then they all can demonstrate this claim by getting out on the streets and protesting until this illegal and illicit regime in the U.S. is changed.  The Catholic church can show its commitment to peace by urging its members to protest actively, it can support their protests, it can publish and widely disseminate the truth. </p>
<p>That it does not do this demonstrates clearly that the Church is as hypocritical and as supportive of Fascism as it was when the Cathars were destroyed, and when it played footsie with Hitler.</p>
<p>Nothing is new under the sun: evil in high places.</p>
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		<title>By: asimplesinner</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3219</link>
		<dc:creator>asimplesinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what a fiiiiiiiiiiiine lookin' photo it turned out to be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what a fiiiiiiiiiiiine lookin&#8217; photo it turned out to be!</p>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3218</link>
		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything for a photo op.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything for a photo op.</p>
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		<title>By: asimplesinner</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3183</link>
		<dc:creator>asimplesinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put indeed!

Such folks are what I call idealogues.  When you reach the point where you won't discuss or explain your point and are so confident you are right without examining why or considering how to convince people, you are going to run into problems!

Given how the Vatican - and some of our bishops in the US like Romanian Greek Catholic +JOHN (Botean) of Canton - have urged against war and begged for peace, it is truly bizarre and ironic that they would target Catholics for a demonstration.  To be crude, why piss off your own friends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put indeed!</p>
<p>Such folks are what I call idealogues.  When you reach the point where you won&#8217;t discuss or explain your point and are so confident you are right without examining why or considering how to convince people, you are going to run into problems!</p>
<p>Given how the Vatican - and some of our bishops in the US like Romanian Greek Catholic +JOHN (Botean) of Canton - have urged against war and begged for peace, it is truly bizarre and ironic that they would target Catholics for a demonstration.  To be crude, why piss off your own friends?</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Flores</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Flores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put  thepoliticalpost!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put  thepoliticalpost!</p>
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		<title>By: thepoliticalpost</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3177</link>
		<dc:creator>thepoliticalpost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The far-left loonies (Greenpeace, Code Pink, etc.) share the same immaturity and hatred with their ideological counterparts on the far-right (those who justify the murder of doctors who perform abortions and the God hates fags crowd).

The absence of  reason obscures right-thinking (logic) and invites all kinds of  lunacy, throws balance on it's head and knows nothing whatsoever of charity.  Both sides in their extremes, whatever their initial good intentions,  often, as in this case, drift into neurosis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The far-left loonies (Greenpeace, Code Pink, etc.) share the same immaturity and hatred with their ideological counterparts on the far-right (those who justify the murder of doctors who perform abortions and the God hates fags crowd).</p>
<p>The absence of  reason obscures right-thinking (logic) and invites all kinds of  lunacy, throws balance on it&#8217;s head and knows nothing whatsoever of charity.  Both sides in their extremes, whatever their initial good intentions,  often, as in this case, drift into neurosis.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. J.</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3152</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been years now that freaky youth have been attacking G-8 Conferences with water canon and tear gas replies.  And, I have never heard or read a single coherent explanation of what they are protesting.  

As you say, David, these histrionics dont pan out for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been years now that freaky youth have been attacking G-8 Conferences with water canon and tear gas replies.  And, I have never heard or read a single coherent explanation of what they are protesting.  </p>
<p>As you say, David, these histrionics dont pan out for them.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3138</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least every time this stuff happens, these guys hurt their cause. As long as the far-left keeps using histrionic tactics, conservatives will continue to gain influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least every time this stuff happens, these guys hurt their cause. As long as the far-left keeps using histrionic tactics, conservatives will continue to gain influence.</p>
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		<title>By: Irenaeus</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3133</link>
		<dc:creator>Irenaeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too bad our secular arm isn't interested in taking care of such people:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad our secular arm isn&#8217;t interested in taking care of such people:)</p>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3125</link>
		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I thought that liturgical dancers were disruptive to Mass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I thought that liturgical dancers were disruptive to Mass!</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Flores</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Flores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--The fact that they chose this venue is odd to me.--

From the news article: 

"In a statement issued Sunday afternoon by Catholic Schoolgirls Against the War, the group said it protested at Holy Name "to reach both Holy Name's large Easter audience—including Chicago's most prominent Catholic citizens, who commonly attend Easter mass at the church—and the many more viewers and readers of the local press, which usually extensively covers their services."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;The fact that they chose this venue is odd to me.&#8211;</p>
<p>From the news article: </p>
<p>&#8220;In a statement issued Sunday afternoon by Catholic Schoolgirls Against the War, the group said it protested at Holy Name &#8220;to reach both Holy Name&#8217;s large Easter audience—including Chicago&#8217;s most prominent Catholic citizens, who commonly attend Easter mass at the church—and the many more viewers and readers of the local press, which usually extensively covers their services.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Flores</title>
		<link>http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/25/taunts-shouts-stage-blood-at-holy-name-cathedral-chicago/#comment-3123</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Flores</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HATE when people do such atrocious things!!!

A similar thing happened in Mexico City in November of last year (2007): http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/20/america/LA-GEN-Mexico-Leftist-Protest.php

Here's a video in Spanish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTeAhrDgbkk&#38;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HATE when people do such atrocious things!!!</p>
<p>A similar thing happened in Mexico City in November of last year (2007): <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/20/america/LA-GEN-Mexico-Leftist-Protest.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/20/america/LA-GEN-Mexico-Leftist-Protest.php</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a video in Spanish: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTeAhrDgbkk&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTeAhrDgbkk&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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