Comments on: Benedict XVI, Muslims, Spengler - 3 Years Later http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/ The Ancient and Future Catholics Blog Fri, 16 May 2008 20:23:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Athos http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3326 Athos Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:57:47 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3326 Yeah, Spengler is a voice I slow down to listen to when I chance upon his work. BTW, I like your blog, folk. Cheers Yeah, Spengler is a voice I slow down to listen to when I chance upon his work. BTW, I like your blog, folk. Cheers

]]> By: asimplesinner http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3266 asimplesinner Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:17:26 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3266 Love em or hate him, Spengler is always provacative enough to provoke some thought and reflection. I guess I would want to better understand how Christianity is a "liquidator of traditional societies" in his mind. Certainly by Christianity's very nature - by baptism's very nature! - there is some transformation that is to be expected. Some traditions so mired in disorder deserve liquidation! This is something I have gotten into serious trouble for saying by folks who think I am some sort of imperialist... But you can't tell me that the introduction of Christianity to South America wasn't a tremendous blessing from the standpoint of ending the human sacrifice that some empires engaged in. It was welcomed as true liberation from that darkness. So in that sense, the traditions that held sway were liquidated. And if your head was next on the chopping block, none too soon! I think I posted a YouTube clip about Father Zakaria before a few months ago... I have been aware of him for awhile. May God grant him many years in health and happiness, protected from those who wish to harm him and much success in spreading the truth of Christianity. I suspect that there are more quiet and closet converts out there and we are going to begin to hear a lot more about them thanks in part to what took place on Easter. We live in interesting times indeed. Love em or hate him, Spengler is always provacative enough to provoke some thought and reflection.

I guess I would want to better understand how Christianity is a “liquidator of traditional societies” in his mind. Certainly by Christianity’s very nature - by baptism’s very nature! - there is some transformation that is to be expected. Some traditions so mired in disorder deserve liquidation!

This is something I have gotten into serious trouble for saying by folks who think I am some sort of imperialist… But you can’t tell me that the introduction of Christianity to South America wasn’t a tremendous blessing from the standpoint of ending the human sacrifice that some empires engaged in. It was welcomed as true liberation from that darkness. So in that sense, the traditions that held sway were liquidated. And if your head was next on the chopping block, none too soon!

I think I posted a YouTube clip about Father Zakaria before a few months ago… I have been aware of him for awhile. May God grant him many years in health and happiness, protected from those who wish to harm him and much success in spreading the truth of Christianity.

I suspect that there are more quiet and closet converts out there and we are going to begin to hear a lot more about them thanks in part to what took place on Easter.

We live in interesting times indeed.

]]> By: Dr. Acula http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3245 Dr. Acula Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:15:26 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3245 http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NTUwY2QyNjA0NjcwMjExMzI2ZmJiZTEzN2U1YjYyZjE= http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n42_v30/ai_15829659 More good links from Egypt. http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NTUwY2QyNjA0NjcwMjExMzI2ZmJiZTEzN2U1YjYyZjE=

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n42_v30/ai_15829659

More good links from Egypt.

]]> By: Dr. Acula http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3243 Dr. Acula Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:59:31 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3243 www.islam-christianity.net www.fatherzakaria.net/ It seems that this Coptic priest takes 'em all on! http://www.islam-christianity.net

http://www.fatherzakaria.net/

It seems that this Coptic priest takes ‘em all on!

]]> By: Dr. Acula http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3241 Dr. Acula Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:23:46 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3241 I agree that Muslims can and should be converted as they come into Europe (assuming there are Catholics who can do so.) I disagree with "Spengler" that Christianity is the liquidator of traditional societies. I agree that Muslims can and should be converted as they come into Europe (assuming there are Catholics who can do so.)

I disagree with “Spengler” that Christianity is the liquidator of traditional societies.

]]> By: morningglories http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3220 morningglories Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:05:30 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3220 There is definitely merit in attempting to proselyze the waves of Islamic immigrants moving into Europe. As this notes, trying to get into Islamic countries and converting them there does not work well given the restraints on missionaries. And while apologetic speakers take on atheists, there are not many in the news taking on Islam. I'm also not sure the majority of Europeans could be characterized as "regular church-goers." But then, there are times I'm not sure America falls into that category either. There is definitely merit in attempting to proselyze the waves of Islamic immigrants moving into Europe. As this notes, trying to get into Islamic countries and converting them there does not work well given the restraints on missionaries.

And while apologetic speakers take on atheists, there are not many in the news taking on Islam.

I’m also not sure the majority of Europeans could be characterized as “regular church-goers.” But then, there are times I’m not sure America falls into that category either.

]]> By: asimplesinner http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3211 asimplesinner Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:02:37 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3211 I am not sure I follow Father - how do you mean? I am not sure I follow Father - how do you mean?

]]> By: Father Andrew http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/03/26/benedict-xvi-muslims-spengler-3-years-later/#comment-3203 Father Andrew Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:27:41 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1146#comment-3203 In a few weeks, on the Feast of the Ascension, will we not hear: <i>Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."</i>, Mt: 28:19? Or is that too simple of an answer? In a few weeks, on the Feast of the Ascension, will we not hear: Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.”, Mt: 28:19?

Or is that too simple of an answer?

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