Comments on: Papal Visit Brings Out Dissenters http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/ The Ancient and Future Catholic Blog Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:20:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: asimplesinner http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/#comment-3511 asimplesinner Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:37:18 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1235#comment-3511 I was thinking we would go the classier PBS route and offer tacky canvass totes with out logo on it for love offerings of $100 or more. $200 or more you get the tote AND an apron. I was thinking we would go the classier PBS route and offer tacky canvass totes with out logo on it for love offerings of $100 or more. $200 or more you get the tote AND an apron.

]]> By: Jason S http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/#comment-3507 Jason S Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:09:59 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1235#comment-3507 Simple: That gives me and idea...we need to get you in a suit with some slicked-back hair and some moving organ music and have us a Telethon ('tis the season it seems.) "With out your help, they're gonna PULL PER CHRISTUM OFF THE SERVERS! For just pennies a day you can keep this blog on the 'Net! And if you call now, you'll this month's love gift: a Per Christum Can Cozie, suitable for holding your favorite sub-standard malt beverage!" Simple:

That gives me and idea…we need to get you in a suit with some slicked-back hair and some moving organ music and have us a Telethon (’tis the season it seems.)

“With out your help, they’re gonna PULL PER CHRISTUM OFF THE SERVERS! For just pennies a day you can keep this blog on the ‘Net! And if you call now, you’ll this month’s love gift: a Per Christum Can Cozie, suitable for holding your favorite sub-standard malt beverage!”

]]> By: asimplesinner http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/#comment-3497 asimplesinner Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:03:08 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1235#comment-3497 Eh, it is a function of representation... Now if I could get all 35,000 members to agree to direct deposit $5 of their paycheck every two weeks into my bank account... I would be a little more impressed by it... Hey VOF members, would you be interested in impressing me? Eh, it is a function of representation… Now if I could get all 35,000 members to agree to direct deposit $5 of their paycheck every two weeks into my bank account… I would be a little more impressed by it…

Hey VOF members, would you be interested in impressing me?

]]> By: Scott http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/#comment-3495 Scott Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:57:18 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1235#comment-3495 Yes, that's what I meant...a small number. Yes, that’s what I meant…a small number.

]]> By: asimplesinner http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/#comment-3494 asimplesinner Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:22:57 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1235#comment-3494 35K members out of a Church with 65+ Million? Honestly, little secret here - getting $10 from each of those members, or $100 from 10% of them is going to afford you a nice $350,000 newspaper ad. I can't imagine a full page add would be much more than that during a weekday... Anyone know? But 35,000 members.... I am not impressed. 35K members out of a Church with 65+ Million?

Honestly, little secret here - getting $10 from each of those members, or $100 from 10% of them is going to afford you a nice $350,000 newspaper ad. I can’t imagine a full page add would be much more than that during a weekday… Anyone know?

But 35,000 members…. I am not impressed.

]]> By: Scott http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/#comment-3491 Scott Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:49:37 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1235#comment-3491 asimplesinner, Yeah, Voice of the Faithful is another group. They had a full page ad in the NY Times yesterday. They claim 35,000 members. asimplesinner,

Yeah, Voice of the Faithful is another group. They had a full page ad in the NY Times yesterday. They claim 35,000 members.

]]> By: asimplesinner http://blog.ancient-future.net/2008/04/09/papal-visit-brings-out-dissenters/#comment-3489 asimplesinner Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:08:47 +0000 http://perchristumblog.wordpress.com/?p=1235#comment-3489 These folks simply don't win... and more than a few of their number are getting grey and disenfranchised. Catholic youth - if they are going to bother with faith at all - aren't going to jump on the "Call to Action" bandwagon. Don't take my word for it, let's go on a roadtrip to some of the many burgeoning seminaries in the US that are packed with young, healthy, dedicated, Mom-lovin', apple-pie eatin', Pope-respectin', rosary prayin', young guys. We will always have dissenters. They will always get some press. I haven't really found them to wield the influence they fancy they do... What influence they had is weigning, and even when it was in full swing, for a lot of it, it could be called out by the book for what it was - illicit abuses. (I think of whole diocese that for a decade or more had parishes that baked their own communion bread, used unapproved eucharistic prayers, and allowed the non-ordained to adopt liturgical positions suggesting concelebration.) Protestors just don't move or inspire me all that much. If anything, I often wonder how they have so much free time. These folks simply don’t win… and more than a few of their number are getting grey and disenfranchised. Catholic youth - if they are going to bother with faith at all - aren’t going to jump on the “Call to Action” bandwagon. Don’t take my word for it, let’s go on a roadtrip to some of the many burgeoning seminaries in the US that are packed with young, healthy, dedicated, Mom-lovin’, apple-pie eatin’, Pope-respectin’, rosary prayin’, young guys.

We will always have dissenters. They will always get some press. I haven’t really found them to wield the influence they fancy they do… What influence they had is weigning, and even when it was in full swing, for a lot of it, it could be called out by the book for what it was - illicit abuses.

(I think of whole diocese that for a decade or more had parishes that baked their own communion bread, used unapproved eucharistic prayers, and allowed the non-ordained to adopt liturgical positions suggesting concelebration.)

Protestors just don’t move or inspire me all that much. If anything, I often wonder how they have so much free time.

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