One would expect the reaction from liberal Anglicans to Rome’s offer would be less than positive, but many conservative Anglicans have also been up in arms about the offer, including bishop Don Harvey of a network of conservative Canadian Anglicans associated with ACNA (Anglican Church in North America). Personally, I find the generous response of evangelical Anglican Matt Kennedy to be better. His response is basically, “even though I don’t agree with the pope, this is a generous and courageous offer for those Anglicans that do happen to agree with the pope.”
Bishop Harvey is not so impressed, and lets his frustration be known:
“Apart from being an intrusion at the very highest levels of one major church into the internal affairs of another, under the guise of being ecumenical, this invitation offers very little that is new,” Bishop Don Harvey, moderator of the Anglican Network in Canada, told the group’s annual synod Thursday morning…
“I find the words in the official joint communique referring to ‘the Catholic Church and the Anglican Tradition’ offensive in the extreme and reporters who suggested that this may be a solution to the Network’s needs are not really aware of what we truly profess,” he said.
I do understand why some conservatives would dislike this offer. Even though the pope’s offer to Anglicans was precipitated by a request by the Traditional Anglican Communion, it still can be seen as “cutting in” on the game of traditional Anglicans, who, let’s face it, are not exactly unified in their response to TEC’s liberalism. There are various options available to those who oppose TEC, which include joining ACNA and staying in TEC. Adding another option, from Rome no less, into the mix, cannot be great news for conservative bishops who are having trouble shepherding the faithful.
On the other hand, Bishop Harvey and anybody else who speaks of ecumenism these days need to understand a certain reality about ecumenism: the old way of doing ecumenism is dead (except perhaps in some quarters of the Academy and in the offices of some church administration buildings). Spending loads of money and time to utter niceties to one another, coming up with nebulous statements of common belief, is out. Watering down churches’ beliefs until no church believes anything meaningful anymore, is the way ecumenism used to be done. It is not the way postmoderns do ecumenism, because it isn’t very genuine.
Serge has a good take on ecumenism, and I wrote about my approach a few years ago which is very similar to his (which I call “blog level ecumenism”). Personally, I would much rather do “on the ground” ecumenism with an Orthodox Christian who tells me he wants me to join the true Church (in his eyes, the Orthodox Church), than an official mainline ecumenical officer who will feed me some line about what they believe, only to publicly deny such a belief later. I respect churches and faiths that stand for things (peacefully and charitably, of course), whether Catholic, Orthodox, Calvinist, or whatever. Bishop Harvey needs to understand that Rome does ecumenism differently, which is to say, we view ecumenism as both evangelization and working toward unity. It’s not the way the mainlines do it, but then again, Catholics aren’t mainline Protestants.
So basically, I understand the negative reaction to this offer, but on the other hand, I would not be offended if Calvinist Anglicans made a similar offer. After all, if Calvinist Catholics (!) approached the head of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church about accommodating them, I would expect the head of that church to help them out, and would not be offended because of that.


November 13, 2009 at 2:19 pm |
Part of the reaction of this Canadian bishop may be rooted in the particular circumstances in Canada that we don’t have in America.
This was brought to my attention most forcefully by an informative post at Anglican Wanderings that explains why the isolated Anglo-Catholic parishes there might consider the pope’s offer differently from their more connected brethren south of the border.
In other words, the Canadians may have more parishes to lose.
November 13, 2009 at 3:32 pm |
Derek,
That is good information to know, and provides some context to the comment. I wondered why the reaction seemed pretty forceful, which surprised me.
I agree that America is a different situation, and I don’t see many taking the offer. I was going to write in the post, but forgot, that there is probably exponentially more discussion of the pope’s offer than the number of people and parishes that will actually take him up on it. There is a lot of buzz, but probably only a small group will avail themselves of the offer.
November 14, 2009 at 12:31 pm |
Gentlemen,
I have a different take on it: Many of the Anglo-Catholics I have known love the IDEA of being “Catholic” – the romance of it, the trappings, the very aesthetic “feel” – but when push comes to shove, they still want to be free to do their own thing. Thus, they would never want to be under the Pope. I think, quite frankly, that for many real Catholic Church just looks to un-British and a little too full of the great unwashed for Anglican tastes.
November 14, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
NH, I think you make a great point, in that what constitutes being an “Anglo-Catholic” varies considerably. Most Anglo-Catholics like being Anglican. When I was briefly studying to be a TEC priest in 2003, there were a few self-identified Anglo-Catholics. This mainly had to do with liking incense, old music, and a certain type of aesthetic. While I agreed with them on that, I saw more outrage develop over the organist not paying a note right than anything TEC was doing.
However, I think there are some Anglo-Catholics of a more old-fashioned variety that are seriously considering the pope’s offer, but I don’t think the “Affirming Catholics” and other more liberals ones will be taking the pope on his offer soon. I also don’t see evangelicals doing it either.
November 17, 2009 at 7:13 pm |
I’m kind of offended by the idea that Anglo-Catholics are afraid of the great unwashed.
December 3, 2009 at 8:47 pm |
Derek makes an interesting point — and one I’m going to think about quite a bit. I’ve met Bp. Harvey, and have known a few of his seminarians and clergy over the years. One thing that has struck me, though, about the Canadian Anglo-Catholics I’ve met — is a strong streak of Anti-(Roman) Catholicism/anti-Romanism/anti-papalism, or whatever you wish to call it. It actually can be pretty vicious — and unfortunate.