Comments on: New Missal Translation Approved

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By: Jeff

Jeff — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:51:24 +0000

I just finished reading the translation and the whole controversy seems a tempest in a tea-pot. For those who wanted “corrected” liturgy, I have a feeling God knows what we mean and hair-splitting is not a wonderful Christian virtue. For those who opposed the changes, why? The sense and meaning are still there, and besides, one of the few things on the Pope and the Bishops’ job descriptions is, “Catholic liturgy.” Let them do their job. The only silly translation was adding the word “roof” to the translation. It may be biblical, but it makes no sense in the context of the mass or the reception of the sacrament that is going on at that moment.

Leave translations to the clergy–the laity have enough to do without getting ourselves knotted up in their cassocks.

By: rey

rey — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:07:30 +0000

You need a different Bible translation too. Went to a Catholic wedding a year or two back, and your translation is whack kindergarten talk. It might as well have been in pig latin, that’s how childish it sounded.

By: jeffrey

jeffrey — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:19:41 +0000

now the revision of the liturgical words was quietly closer to the TLM or Traditional Latin Mass. this language defined as a sacred language of our church. being sacred it must remain sacred in any places inside the church. The catholic church only has the divine authority to teach to thy faithful

By: David Bennett

David Bennett — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:28:41 +0000

Hobbit,

I agree with you on that point. I didn’t catch the wording of the absolution until now.

Overall, I think it is an improvement, and brings the English translation into line with translations in other languages.

By: Nicene Hobbit

Nicene Hobbit — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:44:26 +0000

The only problem I have is with the absolution after the Confiteor. “May Almighty God have mercy on us and lead us with our sins forgiven to everlasting life.” I know it is actually more faithful to the Latin but “May Almighty God have mercy upon us, forgive us our sins, and bring us to everlasting life.” just sounds better and has been the English translation of the Latin long before Vat. 2.

By: Jonathan B

Jonathan B — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:51:26 +0000

Carol,
This is only an issue with the English translation and while there may be cases where persecuted Catholics celebrate the mass in English, my guess is that it is extremely rare. The only issue we’d probably have to worry about is angering US Catholics who have to miss a couple minutes of the NFL pregame show on Sundays.

Annie,
I agree. I’m liking this too. But, I’m also a language type person and think fidelity to the original is always better.

By: Annie

Annie — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:11:58 +0000

I don’t know what’s clearer. I just know “And with your spirit” is a better translation than “and also with you.” I’m also really liking “it is right and just” for dignus et justus est. I’m a fan of this translation, i think.

By: Nicene Hobbit

Nicene Hobbit — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:13:23 +0000

Carol,
The present translation really is rather “dumbed down” English in many places. Any translation of a sacred text (including the Mass) ought to be in somewhat dignified, exalted language that uses the best grammar and a good, straightforward … but not simpleminded … vocabulary.

By: Carol

Carol — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:39:13 +0000

But the substitute was clearer! I’ll go along with it, but some change seems only busywork. Perspective: Are priests who have to say Mass secretly and thus keep it pared down to the bone going to trouble their heads or flocks over these changes? To be purposely less catholic with that part of the Church makes me feel even more like we are the bored-royalty wing.